Subject: Dp(2;Y)cb25-9 and Dp(2;Y)cb25-11 Hi Terry, I am working on your 1989 Genetics Rsp paper The effect of novel chromosome position and variable dose on the genetic behavior of Rsp....... Genetics 121:751-763 and have a question about the cytology of the two 'carve-down' duplications that were examined cytologically, Dp(2;Y)cb25-9 and Dp(2;Y)cb25-11. You say (Fig 2) that one of the breaks made in generating these falls in h46-41A1. My question is about the second break. Do you know whether there is any distal 2R left on the duplication? Or is the second break so close to the telomere of 2R that no 2R euchromatin remains? many thanks for your help, Rachel \-------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Drysdale. FlyBase (Cambridge), \-------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dp(2;Y)cb25-9 and Dp(2;Y)cb25-11 Rachel, Both -9 and -11 appear to be broken in the neighborhood of 60D. It is hard to be precise about these, because of heterochromatinization and other difficulties in mapping bands buried next to the chromocenter. An extra problem arises with -9, which actually appears to have one break in 42A. If you notice, -9 and -11 on Figure 2 of the paper actually are shown to have uncertain proximal breakpoints, beyond the h bands. I do think -11 has a more proximal breakpoint than -9, however. Does this help? Cheers, Terry \--------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Terry, thank you for your prompt response! Yes, it helps a lot and improves what we can store about these duplications a great deal. So to confirm,it sound to me like you would like to say that the two carve-down deletion breaks are: 42A and 60D, for Dp(2;Y)cb25-9 and 41A1-41F (i.e. beyond the h bands but proximal to the cb25-9 break) and 60D, for Dp(2;Y)cb25-11 We all know how difficult it is to do cytology close to heterochromatin, and it presents no problem to us to have a wide range in the breakpoint estimates. best wishes, Rachel \-------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Drysdale. FlyBase (Cambridge), \-------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dp(2;Y)cb25-9 and Dp(2;Y)cb25-11 Rachel, You have it right. Terry