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Gelbart, W.M. (1996.3.6). Help FlyBase - Mad. 
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FBrf0086257
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Subject: Help FlyBase - Mad
Hi Bill,
I have three questions concerning your paper:
\*x FBrf0080380 == Sekelsky et al., 1995, Genetics 139(3): 1347--1358
1)
This aberration: Df(2L)DTD62 2P3D;H7 3P2D
is mentioned in Table 1 on pg1349.
We do not have DTD62, is it a T(2;3), what are its breakpoints, do you have
a reference for it? Any other information you can provide would be
marvellous too!
We have T(2;3)H7 but the breakpoints you list do not match those we have in
the database, are you revising the breakpoints or citing breakpoints from a
previous paper, if so which one?
2)
This aberration: Dp(2;3)JS20
is mentioned in Figure 1 on pg 1350.
We do not have this aberration in the database and yet you fail to give any
details, please tell me as much as possible. Previous reference would be
yummy!
3)
Transcript: c24
is mentioned in Figure 5 on pg1353.
Was just wondering if you have done more work on this transcript and
possibly given it a gene symbol yet? One less anon in the database if you
have.
Many thanks,
Nellie
>
Subject: Re: Help FlyBase - Mad
Hi Nellie,
Here's the information you requested.
Bill
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T(2;3)DTD62 == T(2;3) 23F ; 80F
Progenitor chromosomes: 2 == dppd-ho
3 == unknown wild-type
Mutagen: X ray
Discoverer: Gelbart
Recovered on the basis of pseudolinkage between chromosomes 2 and 3.
Subsequently shown to disrupt transvection in T(2;3)DTD62, dppd-ho
/ dpphr4 individuals (Gelbart, unpublished).
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T(2;3)HVD7 == T(2;3) 23D1-2 ; 80F
Synonym: T(2;3)H7
Progenitor chromosomes: 2 == dppd-ho
3 == unknown wild-type
Mutagen: X ray
Discoverer: Gelbart
Recovered as a heldout fly in an experiment to identify dpp transvection-
disrupting rearrangements (DTDs). Upon retesting, did not display a DTD
effect, and so it is given the suffix 'HVD' for the consonants in Harvard
according to proper Bostonian pronunciation. Arose during the mutageneses
described in Gelbart, 1982 (FBrf0038632).
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Df(2L)DTD62-HVD7 == Ts(2R;3L)DTD62 + Ts(2L;3R)HVD7
New order: 2Lt - 23D | 80F - 3Rt
2Rt - 23F | 80F - 3Lt
Deficient for: 23D1-2 ; 23F
Deleted for: Mad
Synonym: Df(2L)DTD62 2P3D;H7 3P2D
Mutagen: Synthetic
Creator: Sekelsky
Progenitors: T(2;3)DTD62
T(2;3)HVD7
Produced by segregation in a fly initially heterozygous for T( 2:3 )DTD62
and T(2;3)HVD7.
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Dp(2;3)JS20 == Dp(2;3) 23C ; 23D ; 94D1-2
uDp
Citation: FBrf0070678, pages 75-76
Title Mothers against dpp: a gene required for decapentaplegic
function in Drosophila melanogaster.
Author(s) Sekelsky, J.J.
Year 1993
Journal Ph.D. Thesis, Harvard University, MA
Pages ix + 152pp
Type thesis
Flybase ID FBrf0070678
Progenitor chromosomes: 2 == dppd-ho Tp(1;2)TE23CD
3 == unknown wild-type
Mutagen: gamma ray
Discoverer: Sekelsky
Recovered as a red-eyed fly among yellow-eyed z1 w11E4 ; dppd-ho
Tp(1;2)TE23CD, w+ / dppd-ho Tp(1;2)TE23CD, w+ dp siblings. Red eyes
are due to the unpaired w+ gene inserted into 94D1-2. The reciprocal
deletion segregant, if it arose, was not recovered.
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>Transcript: c24
>is mentioned in Figure 5 on pg1353.
>Was just wondering if you have done more work on this transcript and
>possibly given it a gene symbol yet? One less anon in the database if you
>have.
Sorry, I can't help you on this one. Not only do we have nothing new on
c24, but if I play things right, we never will. Studying this gene at all
was just a by-product of honing in on the Mad gene. So, unless you want
me to call it one of these 'next door gene' cutesy names, like Almost Mad,
which I think would be absurd, the best thing to do is leave it wallowing in
anon-imity, and live with its naffiness until someone comes along and actually studies the blessed gene.
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